165: Best of MSA - Book Smart,Gym Smart, or Both? Cliff Wilson Interview Pt 2! - Ep 34 Re-Air

We’re back with part 2 of the interview with Cliff Wilson. In part one, Episode 22, Cliff shared interesting theory on the contradiction whereby some of his clients with the slowest metabolisms can get the leanest, yet some of his clients with crazy high metabolisms struggle to reach elite levels of body composition. Part 2 covers the conflict between formally educated trainers/coaches vs. those without formal education and how to balance use of both knowledge sets for those possessing both. If you’re a client looking for a coach or trainer – John and Cliff also share how to find the best coach or trainer for you! Additional insights are shared on carving out your methods as a professional and staying adaptable in them. Calories in v. calories out doesn’t necessarily equal weight gain or loss – and the nuances of why this might be so are discussed. Finally, did you know Cliff used to play basketball against the NBA’s in high school? Be sure to listen through for those stories and more!
Note: Cliff was pivotal to my first season success as a natural bodybuilder. I was blown away by the transformation to my physique while under his guidance in such a short period of time. I give his services my highest recommendation!

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